I am so ESFJ 2w8 EFVL way more than any other 2025 being (trans typal)
@camo303xvp
What do you want from posting this? Was this just a vent or did you want responses? Also, if so, did you want advice or validation of some kind? Just trying to be sure. I'm happy to respond or just listen here.
Just another thing: a transgender person getting misgendered is nothing like an anorexic person gaining weight. Being transgender is not a mental illness. Being anorexic is not an identity- being anorexic kills people. When an anorexic person gains weight, they become healthier in body and eventually mind. When a transgender person is misgendered, their identity is invalidated. The these two examples are not alike.
I only feel the need to make this clear as an anorexic person in recovery. This is nothing against you, it's just some clarifying information.
@determinedSea4370
now i feel so stupid and irrational and not very ti dom 5w6 like at all whenever anyone pokes holes in anything i say
So ashamed
So ESFP
So 4L
@camo303xvp I didn't mean to upset you, I was just trying to clarifying some information. I don't know if this would make you feel any better, but I'm not a ti dom or a 5w6 either. I'm a fi dom and a 4w5, which according to stereotypes should make me a moody crybaby, but in reality I'm more than capable of sitting calmly here and thinking rationally. Personality types are just tools to understand yourself and others a little better, but they aren't the end all be all- especially since they aren't backed by science.
Is someone else pushing labels on you? Or are you scared to try and define yourself without these personality type labels?
I'm honestly just curious and trying to understand. You are interesting to me. You should know that I am a very open-minded person and nothing you say and no mistakes you make will make me judge you poorly.
I personally disagree with a lot of the commentary made here: 'cisgendered women are closeted transgender males'– I'm sorry, what?
That's highly insensitive and does nothing but further the misogyny that's been on the rise over the past decade or so. Women can be women and choose to be women. There is nothing wrong with that.
To imply that they're secretly vying to be men is, frankly, gross.
Besides, there's statistically plenty of men in women's spaces and not the other way around. Funny, that. So are all cisgendered men closeted transgender females? Given trends that are on the rise, that seems to be more accurate. (If you can call any of this rational or accurate in any sense.)
Labelling 'cisgendered' women like this is no better than people labelling yourself. You can't expect one rule for you and one rule for the rest of us. I'm friends with a transgender person and they're equally perplexed by your commentary.
Also, the Myers & Briggs test that you're referencing (ESFJ etc.) isn't remotely backed by any kind of science despite its popularity. Be careful if you wholly throw yourself into it as some way to identify yourself, because again, it's not grounded in any kind of accuracy. I say this out of mental health concerns. I'm not trying to be antagonistic.
@determinedSea4370 It's brave of you to post your experiences here. I'm with you on disagreeing about anorexia being nothing like transgender people being misgendered. I don't know what the OP is trying to gain here either. They want to be heard but don't want commentary, I suppose? There's no rationale. All I know is their posting is flooding the journal and diary wall and it's sad because I want to be able to see everyone's content. Not constant boosts of this one day after day.
Either way, I hope you feel better soon OP and DeterminedSea.
